Christianity and Islam: Jesus – Prophet, Messiah, and Lord (1)

This is the sixth blog in my series which began with  One Christian Looks at Islam Looking at Christianity; next was the two part  Christianity and Islam: Of Prophecy and the Prophet; then the two part  Christianity and Islam:  Conflict over True Christianity.     These blogs are my reaction to the claims of some Muslim missionary literature aimed at converting Christians to Islam.

Christ8AAccording to the literature, Islam accepts Jesus as a major prophet on the authority of the Qur’an alone – not on the authority of the Torah or the Gospel.   This means that the information in the Qur’an cannot be measured by the Scriptures of Christians and Jews.   Therefore, ideas about Jesus or Moses or any of the Biblical prophets found in the Qur’an are said not to be reliant on or influenced by the teachings of Jews and Christians.   Islam claims the Qur’an is “a-historical” meaning it is a divine document without any human explanations added to it, unlike the Bible which Muslims claim contains errors since it shows signs of human intention in it – historical information, recording human events, offering human exegesis and explanations.  Such claims by Muslims free Islam from having to subject their teachings to historical, literary, archeological or scientific examination.   Personally I see this as a weakness.  For any religion which claims it upholds Truth, should have nothing to fear from such external examination.   Truth is truth.    God’s truth is true in this world, and should be able to be examined by human reason and investigation.   Science is not going to overthrow the Truth of God, but it might challenge overly rigid or literally readings of Scripture.  But the believer has nothing to fear from studies in history, linguistics, literature or science, unless some of the claims of religion are not literally true.

One convert to Islam from Christianity accused Christians  of seeing the Bible as an end in itself, whereas  he says it points to something else beyond the text.    He of course claimed it points to Muhammad.   Bibliolotry is not Christian for in Christianity we have God’s Word incarnate – Jesus.    God’s Word is living and personal and not just a book of printed pages and rules and regulations.    God’s Word is not a book but a person.   Christians certainly would agree that the Bible points to something beyond itself.   In the Gospels which the Qur’an does say contains the message of God,  Jesus said, “You search the Scriptures because you think that in them you have eternal life; and it is they that bear witness about me, yet you refuse to come to me that you may have life.”

I do not know how Muslims understand the Qur’an in heaven.   They see the Qur’an on earth as being an exact replica of that which exists in heaven (and thus they see the Qur’an as having been authored by God and not written by men inspired by God).   My question is:  what form does the Qur’an take in heaven?  Does it have some kind of existence, material or spiritual?  Can it be seen or read?    Did God actually write it down on something?   What does it mean that it exists in heaven?   This seems to me a point to be discussed for Christians certainly understand Jesus to be God’s eternal Word (see John 1).

Islam claims that it offers the correct understanding of Jesus.   “It is Muslims who are best adhering to the teachings of Jesus Christ (peace be upon him), and hence they rightly deserve to be called the ‘true followers of Jesus Christ.'”    According to the literature, Muslims believe in Jesus and believe in God’s revelation to Him, the Gospel.   Muslims believe in his supernatural conception without a human father, that he performed miracles like giving life to the dead.  Muslims believe in his 2nd coming.  Mary is greatly respected in Islam.   These are some ways that Islam shares with Christianity ideas about Jesus and why he should be honored by all people in the world.   Both religions claim it is important to know Jesus and to know who Jesus is.   This is the point upon which Christians and Muslims can debate, agree and disagree since they share some common ideas.   The issue of who best follows Jesus and understands Him is where more disagreement will be found, and yet it is something concrete that can be discussed.

The literature says that Jesus never claimed “I am God you must worship me”  or “I am co-equal and co-eternal with God”  or “you will enter heaven if you believe in my blood sacrifice.”   Here Islam follows a line of thinking that one can find in the early years of Christianity in Arianism, which Christianity considered for many years but then rejected as a false idea about Jesus and not consistent with the revelation recorded in the Scriptures.  (Unlike Islam, the Arians didXCEnthroned2 accept the same Scriptures as the rest of Christianity and debated the received text.  Islam simply denies the validity of the received text and offers a different text as Scripture, which makes it acutely difficult for Christians and Muslims to discuss who Jesus is).   But there are a plenty of examples in the Christian Scriptures which uphold the claims of the Christians regarding the relationship of Jesus to God the Father.   A major difference however between Christianity and Islam is that Islam tends to read Scriptures with an absolute literalism, while the Christians have been willing to reflect beyond the literal words in gaining an insight into the meaning of the Bible.  Islam says Jesus never commanded His followers to worship Him, but Christianity would insist if you remain faithful to what the Scriptures witness to about Jesus, it becomes clear that He is the Messiah, the Son of God, imbued with the powers of God, which leads one to the conclusion that Jesus Himself expressed that He shares a unique oneness with God the Father.   In this way Christianity calls humanity to greater reflection on what God wills for humans, while Islam relies much more on simply submitting to God’s commandments.

Next:   Christianity and Islam:  Jesus – Prophet, Messiah, and Lord (2)

6 thoughts on “Christianity and Islam: Jesus – Prophet, Messiah, and Lord (1)

  1. Fr Ted wrote

    “..Islam says Jesus never commanded His followers to worship Him, but Christianity would insist if you remain faithful to what the Scriptures witness to about Jesus, it becomes clear that He is the Messiah, the Son of God, imbued with the powers of God, which leads one to the conclusion that Jesus Himself expressed that He shares a unique oneness with God the Father. …”

    Did God has another begotten son as mentioned in Psalm?

    “I will proclaim the decree of the Lord: he said to me, you are my Son; this day have I begotten you.”
    [Psalms 2:7]

    If Jesus share unique oneness with God the Father why did Jesus differentiate with the Father mentioned the following:

    21″Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?’ 23Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers! ‘Matthew 7:21-24 (New International Version)

    30By myself I can do nothing; I judge only as I hear, and my judgment is just, for I seek not to please myself but him who sent me. John 5:30 (New International Version)

    And why Jesus mentioned Lord is One not Three but Christian believe in Trinity?

    “Of all the commandments, which is the most important?” “The most important one,” answered Jesus, “is this: ‘Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one. Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.’ (NIV, Mark 12:28-30).

    Peace

  2. Fr. Ted

    arah,

    Peace also be with you.

    Psalm 2:7, does God have another son? It appears in the Old Testament scriptures that the kings of Israel or sometimes given the title son of God. Psalm 2:7 was understood by many believers to be a prophecy of Jesus. Jesus himself called those who are peacemakers “sons of God” (Matthew 5:9). So the title “son of God” does get applied to some other than just Jesus.

    The “oneness of Jesus and God the Father.” This is a difficult concept to comprehend. I will attempt to explain by analogy. I hope you will understand my explanation from music. If you play a note, say on a piano or any musical instrument, the note fills the room and you hear it clearly. That same note can be played as part of a three note chord. Each note is distinct and yet together they share the space of the same room and harmonize with each other. Jesus shares a oneness with God the Father but He is not identical to the Father. You and I are both human beings, and yet we are not identical with one another. A husband and wife become one when wedded to each other, and yet each person still exists. A beam of sunlight is one, and yet when passed through a prism shows itself to be made up of all the colors of light of the spectrum. I am just offering these analogies as possible ways to understand what Christians mean and understand by the notion of the Jesus and the Father being one. They share one nature, but they are two distinct persons. YOu and I share the same human nature, we recogize each other as humans even though we might look quite different from each other.
    The oneness of God – some of what you are saying is explained by the fact that sometimes the word God is used to refer to God the Father while other times it is used to mean God the Trinity. We do believe there is only one God, one divinity, one divine nature, which the Trinity shares. Again the inadequate comparison I can offer you is we say all humans share the same human nature – there is only one human nature, but there are many human persons who share that one nature.
    We can never completely understand God – He is always a mystery to us. God is love we say, this too is a mystery. For we believe that for God who is love is not narcissistic. The God of love internally loves and that love is possible only if there is more than one to share that love.

  3. My dear Fr Ted,

    Thank you for your prompt reply.

    I agreed with you that we can never completely understand God, however the OT, NT and Quran ( Final Testament) stated clearly that God is One many times.

    Is there any clear teaching by Moses, Jesus or Muhammad mentioning God is One in Three, Three in One or Trinity?

    Its very difficult to explain to others if we can’t provide any quotation from OT, NT or FT?

    OT
    Exodus 20:2-5 (New International Version)
    2 “I am the LORD your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery. 3 “You shall have no other gods before [a] me. 4 “You shall not make for yourself an idol in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below. 5 You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the fathers to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me,

    NT
    “Of all the commandments, which is the most important?” “The most important one,” answered Jesus, “is this: ‘Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one. Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.’ (NIV, Mark 12:28-30).

    FT
    # 112:1 (Asad) SAY: “He is the One God:
    # 112:2 (Asad) “God the Eternal, the Uncaused Cause of All Being. [1]
    # 112:3 (Asad) “He begets not, and neither is He begotten;
    # 112:4 (Asad) “and there is nothing that could be compared with Him. [2]

    Peace

  4. Fr. Ted

    Teachings of Moses:
    Genesis 1:1 mentions both God and the spirit of God. Christians also see in Gen 1 the Word of God to be distinct from God and come to believe these three: God the Father, God the Word and God the Spirit are in fact being revealed to us from the beginning.

    Genesis 1:26, when God suddenly says “let US make man in OUR image…” Who is the US who is speaking? Why is God speaking in the plural?’

    Another teaching of Moses: Genesis 18, the three visitors come to Abraham. Strangely they speak as if they are the One Lord (vs. 13).

    Psalm 33:6 says God made the world by His Breath/Spirit and Word. The Breath and Word of God have some unique position and function.

    The Spirit of God is clearly and active and divine force in the OT as is the Word of God. Christians simply believe what has been made clear is that God is One but the unity of God is different than we humans imagined. Christianityi does not deny the oneness of God in any of the passages you cited.

    In the NT certainly the story of Christ’s baptism mentions the Father and Spirit and himself, Mark 1:9-11. And In Matthew 28 Jesus tells his disciples to go into the world and baptize in the Name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit.

    John 1 certainly makes clear the difference between God the Father and the Word of God who becomes incarnate.

    Those would be some examples of the One God being different than we imagine. Christians do accept that there is one God but do believe that the witness of the Scriptures concerning God, His Word and His Spirit are captured in the notion of the Trinity.

  5. Tim Anthony

    salam brothers. it’s me again. :D

    just want to clarify:

    frted: Genesis 1:26, when God suddenly says “let US make man in OUR image…” Who is the US who is speaking? Why is God speaking in the plural?’

    me: remember when he said Let there be light. and there was light. that is His word. so why would God say Let there be light if there is none to speak to? this is the simplest answer i can think of. Words that Allah say is the truth and if He wills something, he just says to it “Be” and it becomes. He is ever sufficient, not needing anything.

    fr ted:Another teaching of Moses: Genesis 18, the three visitors come to Abraham. Strangely they speak as if they are the One Lord (vs. 13).

    me: God sends angels to interface with the human. this is evident even on mary’s conception. it is not fitting for God who made everything thru His Words that He go to a human to warn about things. Angels are servant who doesnt fail. they do as God commands, they say as God tells them. if the 3 “beings” you referred to spoke as one, then is it not fitting that God commanded them to?

    frted: Psalm 33:6 says God made the world by His Breath/Spirit and Word. The Breath and Word of God have some unique position and function.

    me: it’s true there is the Word of God which is under God’s command too. that means it is not God, it is God’s breath/word. God is One, and no other is like unto him. He’s the Creator of all and will thus include He created His word, His breath, and all. nothing came to existence without God’s will. nothing happened that fall out of God’s plan.

    SALAM.

  6. Fr. Ted

    Tim,
    But you make the Christian case – why would God speak if there were none to listen? Christians would say there was the Son and Holy Spirit. This again is based in the scriptural claim that God is love. God is neither a narcissist or a solipsist. God always loves because there always was another to love – the eternity of God and the eternity of love are the witness to the Trinitarian God. God was never alone and always loving because there always was a lover and a beloved in God. God speaks in love because there eternally is a beloved. God is not offering a soliloquy. His words are heard and alive and active and fruitful. Not empty or for emptiness.

    When you say God’s word is not God, does Islam say that God’s word is merely created? Is the Qur’an eternal or not? Is God’s Word divine? I am asking. I don’t know what Islam teaches.

    If God’s word is merely created, how could it be in God’s presence? For does not Islam keep a strict separation between God and His creation?

    What does the Qur’an mean when it says Jesus is God’s Word (Q 4:171 The Woman)? How is that understood in Islam?

    One other question – I’ve heard it said that in Islam statements in the Qur’an are sometimes not taken literally because other statements which were given to Muhammad later in his life supercede the earlier revelation. Thus earlier statements in the Qur’an always must be interpreted in the light of later statements. Is this a fair claim about reading the Qur’an?

    Thanks for considering the questions.

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